Relevant Links
https://www.danpink.com/the-power-of-regret/
Episode Transcript
Intro
Hi everyone, welcome to how to live, a podcast that explores ways to live a good life. I am your host Sharad Lal.This is episode 18.
Topic
- Today we will talk about regrets.
- Most of us have some regrets in life
- Here are some example of regrets
- I regret cheating on my boyfriend for 7 years instead of breaking up with him
- My deepest regret of 52 years of my life is living fearfully. I was afraid of looking foolish so I did not do so many things I wanted to
- I regret not spending enough time with my kids when they were young. Now they are grown up and don’t have any bond with me.
- Regret is a complex emotion
- It combines anger, shame, self blame, helplessness, anxiety, remorse and many other negative emotions
- Many of us hold regrets for years and decades
- They weigh us down
- But these can be valuable and helpful
- In today’s episode we will deep dive into this emotion
- We look at
- What regret tells us about ourselves
- How we can them through grow
- And how regrets form a pathway towards fulfilment and purpose
- We’ve referred to the work done by Daniel Pink in his book the Power of regret as our primary source of information.
Before getting into the episode
- Thank you very much to you listening for your generous support
- With your support, we are now among the top 5% of all podcasts globally.
- We are listened to in over 60 countries.
- Thank you for making this happen
- Please do consider leaving us a rating on Spotify, Apple or wherever you are listening to this.
- Thank you in advance
Medal question
- Back to the episode
- In the Olympics - medals are given to the top 3 winners -
- Gold is given to the athlete who finishes first, silver to one second and bronze to the third
- Among them, who do you think is the happiest?
- Thats easy - the gold medalist
- The second happiest
- One would think the silver medalist
- and bronze the least happy
- But think again
- What would the silver medalist be thinking?
- If only I had trained harder
- If only I had gotten off the blocks faster
- If only I had longer legs
- Etc
- What would the bronze medalist be thinking
- At least I was in the top 3
- At least I won an Olympic medal
- At least my name will go down in the history books
- Etc
- It sounds a little counterintuitive but
- Bronze medalist is happier than the silver medalist
- This isn’t just us saying it, there is a whole body of evidence to back this
- In a famous study conducted during the 1992 Barcelona Olympics
- Researchers got people with no awareness of the games to rate the facial expressions of Silver and Bronze medalists on a scale of agony to ecstasy
- The found overwhelming evidence of Bronze medalists to be happier than Silver medalists
- In interviews later bronze medalists were heard to use the words “at least” very often while the silver medalists used the words “if only”.
- This study has been replicated multiple times in different settings - the results are the same
- Bronze medalists are happier than silver medalists
If only and at least attitudes
- The “at least” attitude that bronze medalists have is a positive attitude
- It’s gratitude for what we have
- Makes us feel good, happy, warm and fuzzy
- While the “if only” feeling is difficult
- Its sad, anxious, angry, remorseful
- It’s not fun
- We hate ourselves in that moment
- But here’s the catch
- While the “at least” attitude is pleasant
- The “if only attitude” helps us grow
- Regret is the ultimate “if only” emotion.
- With regret we feel unpleasant and many complex difficult emotions.
- But when handled right - this can be very valuable.
- Regret in a nutshell
- Makes us feel worse today
- But helps us do better tomorrow.
- Multiple studies by folks in London Business School, Columbia University and others have shown this.
- They’ve found that regret when handled correctly can help us become better
How do regrets make us grow
- These studies found that regret helps us in two ways
- From an everyday life perspective - it enhances our performance and decision making skills.
- This happens because in order to avoid the negative feeling of regret again - we slow down, collect more information, consider wider options and then reach conclusions
- Additionally having faced failure - we are more persistent and this elevates performance
- Secondly - from a depth perspective - it strengthen our sense of meaning and connection
- As we look at all our regrets we get a sense of what’s missing in our lives and what’s really important. For example if we do a mid-life review of regrets. We often revise our life goals to make them more meaningful and have a stronger motivation towards them.
Not wallow in our regret
- As I share all this research, many of you will be thinking
- Wait a minute - That’s not what regret is
- My experience has been very different from what you’ve described.
- I broke the closest friendship I ever had because of some petty matter
- It’s been 20 years and I regret it even today
- or
- I turned down the perfect job offer and ever since my career has gone downhill
- I regret it every morning I go to work
- or
- I lied to get ahead in life putting the blame on an innocent person
- I regret what I did deeply and haven’t been able to forgive myself since.
- Regret is so negatively embedded in us that it’s impossible to imagine that we can grow from this.
- To grow from regret it needs to be handled correctly
- But it’s such a difficult emotion that most of us fail to do so.
- Some of us bury it and say we have no regrets
- But this comes back periodically to harm us and even changes the way we approach life
- Or we put a positive spin using the “at least” attitude
- But this only provided temporary relief and does not enable us to learn from our mistakes
- Or and this is the most common response - we get completely consumed by the emotions
- We are so overwhelmed that we cannot process the emotion and we simply wallow in them
- So how do we grow from regret vs getting consumed by the avalanche of emotions?
How does we move forward from the deep emotions regret brings about regret consume us
- The best way to visualise the avalanche of emotions is through a concept called rumination.
- Rumination is
- Constantly repeating the same event in our mind multiple times
- If only I had not said those nasty words
- If only we had cancelled the trip etc
- These short regretful stories keep coming in bursts
- Consuming us. Enveloping us with complex emotions.
- They bring up multiple emotions
- Self Blame is a big emotion
- Why did I do this?
- I am so stupid and foolish
- I’m a monster etc
- Helplessness is another emotion
- I can’t undo this?
- I will take this to my grave
- Why didn't’ I do this or that?
- etc
- It’s the same story again and again
- In a circular pattern.
- The story never moves forward
- That’s why we are stuck for years
- The key here is to move the story forward
- To get out of the loop
- There are many ways to do this
- A simple powerful tool in Journaling.
- Writing down our emotions.
- As we write we are forced to move the thought forward because we cannot sit there writing the same thing.
- By moving the thought forward and experiencing all the underlying emotions we are able to process regret.
- This is again backed by empirical evidence.
- Psychologist James Pennebaker calls this expressive writing and has proven empirically that writing about our most difficult emotions helps us heal.
- We had talked about rumination and expressive writing in more detail in episode 4 - managing everyday stress. For more on this - please do check out the episode.
- Some other tools on managing these stories can also be found in both episode 3 and 4
- There are many other tools to not get consumed in our mental thought patterns. For example
- Distancing ourselves from the event
- Treating ourselves with compassion and many more
- We will be discussing this as a separate topic in a future episode on managing mental chatter
- So the key is to process emotions and then grow from regret by making better decision and enhancing our performance.
- This serves us well in everyday life
- What’s even more powerful is the second huge benefit that regret provides
- It tells us about ourselves - what’s important to us, what are we longing
- And this provides a path towards meaning and fulfilment.
- To understand how this happens - let’s look at the different types of regret
4 types of regrets
- Daniel Pink classifies regrets into 4 categories
- Foundational regret
- Are those about the basic foundations of life
- Education, family, community, career, money, safety etc
- Its regrets around not completing one’s education or not establishing a stable career etc.
- This normally sound like this - If only I’d done the work
- The words too much and too little indicate foundational regret.
- Too much TV, too much partying, too much spending, too little saving, too little commitment etc
- Boldness regrets
- Are the opposite of foundation regrets
- Its regrets about not taking a chance and playing it safe
- For example - regret about not starting a business or not travelling enough, or not having fun
- These are typically inactions vs actions.
- Based on research, inaction regrets are two times action regrets
- They sound like “What if”
- What if I’d quit my job, what if I’d married the girl I loved etc
- Typically
- They represent a lack of growth, a lack of being brave, a lack of being evolved.
- And ultimately a lack of living fully
- Connection regrets
- Arise from relationships
- This is the largest category of regrets
- These threaten our sense of belonging
- This is core to who we are
- Sound like this - “If only I’d reached out”
- If only I’d made up we’d still be friends, if only I’d sent that email we’d connected etc.
- Moral regrets
- Are about harming others, cheating, disloyalty, disrespect etc
- These make up only 10% of all regrets
- But they hurt the most and last the longest.
- They sound like - if only I had done the right thing
- If only I had stood up for my friend, if only I had come clean etc.
Regret as pathway to finding fulfilment and purpose
- Why is it important to look at these categories of regrets?
- This is because we are now moving from a micro picture of one regret to a macro picture of all our regrets
- By reflecting on all our regrets - big and small
- One might realise that most of our regrets sit in one category
- Whether its foundational regrets, connection regrets or any other
- This serves as a useful self awareness tool
- It tells us that there’s a part of us
- That’s very important to us
- And Is unfulfilled
- If we work towards filling this gap in life - we will find fulfilment and meaning.
- Now - If most of our regrets are foundational
- It tells us we need to build a fundamental structure of safety
- A secure platform of home, family, money, career, etc
- Whatever version that is for us.
- We’ve spent too much time exploring, trying new experiences, and floating around
- And too little in laying a solid foundation for our life.
- And now we feel insecure and fearful of the future.
- Boldness regrets
- Tell us that we are not living life fully
- We are stuck in a safe path or maybe a path someone’s chosen for us
- And we are resentful about it. Maybe even bored of our life.
- We want to break free, take some risks, try new things and live life fully.
- Connection regrets
- Tell us that we are scared of being all alone and lonely
- Our relationships are not deep
- Maybe we’ve treated our loved ones shabily, not made time for them, not been reciprocal
- We want to mend some old relationships and create deeper bonds
- Moral regrets
- Tells us that we’ve not stood up for what we believe in
- We often let ourselves and people around us down.
- This regret tells us about our need to live closer to our values and have a strong sense of self.
- This way depending on what bucket our regret lie in - we get a sense of where we can find fulfilment.
- However maybe on studying regrets - we realise they are not part of any category mentioned above
- Maybe most of our regrets have arisen out of anger
- Anger has made us sabotage our relationships, our career and our well being.
- This again is very good intel on ourselves which we can work on to grow and find peace.
- Regrets are from our past
- But if we can look at them as a gateway to the future
- They become empowering
- Like someone said
- The best time to make deepen an important relationship or start investing wisely or become an entrepreneur may have been 20 years ago
- The second best time is now.
Action Steps
- If any of this resonated with you, here are two action steps you could consider
- First is think of one regret that’s affected you
- Take some time out to write in down
- Maybe you could describe the incident and then write down all the feelings that arise
- Don’t hold back - use whatever language you like
- Give yourself 15-20 minutes to do this.
- After writing - check in with yourself and see how you feel.
- Did you learn anything about yourself? What can you do better next time? How do you feel about your regret now?
- The second exercise you could try is a Regret Review
- Set aside an hour to reflect on your regrets in life
- Note down whatever regrets come to mind - small and big.
- Once you’ve got most of your regrets down
- See what it tells you about yourself.
- From this is there an area of focus you could work on.
- How will you go about fulfilling this area of your life?
End
- I wish you all the best as you work through your regrets.
- Let’s end todays episode with a short passage by the great poet David Whyte
- Sincere regret may be a faculty for paying attention to the future.
- For sensing a new tide where we missed a previous one
- For experiencing timelessness with a grandchild where we neglected a boy of our own
- Fully experienced regrets turn our eyes attentive and alert for a future possibly lived better than the past.
- That’s all for today’s episode
- Wish all of you a wonderful day ahead.
- Bye bye
Intro
Hi everyone, welcome to how to live, a podcast that explores ways to live a good life. I am your host Sharad Lal.This is episode 18.
Topic
- Today we will talk about regrets.
- Most of us have some regrets in life
- Here are some example of regrets
- I regret cheating on my boyfriend for 7 years instead of breaking up with him
- My deepest regret of 52 years of my life is living fearfully. I was afraid of looking foolish so I did not do so many things I wanted to
- I regret not spending enough time with my kids when they were young. Now they are grown up and don’t have any bond with me.
- Regret is a complex emotion
- It combines anger, shame, self blame, helplessness, anxiety, remorse and many other negative emotions
- Many of us hold regrets for years and decades
- They weigh us down
- But these can be valuable and helpful
- In today’s episode we will deep dive into this emotion
- We look at
- What regret tells us about ourselves
- How we can them through grow
- And how regrets form a pathway towards fulfilment and purpose
- We’ve referred to the work done by Daniel Pink in his book the Power of regret as our primary source of information.
Before getting into the episode
- Thank you very much to you listening for your generous support
- With your support, we are now among the top 5% of all podcasts globally.
- We are listened to in over 60 countries.
- Thank you for making this happen
- Please do consider leaving us a rating on Spotify, Apple or wherever you are listening to this.
- Thank you in advance
Medal question
- Back to the episode
- In the Olympics - medals are given to the top 3 winners -
- Gold is given to the athlete who finishes first, silver to one second and bronze to the third
- Among them, who do you think is the happiest?
- Thats easy - the gold medalist
- The second happiest
- One would think the silver medalist
- and bronze the least happy
- But think again
- What would the silver medalist be thinking?
- If only I had trained harder
- If only I had gotten off the blocks faster
- If only I had longer legs
- What would the bronze medalist be thinking
- At least I was in the top 3
- At least I won an Olympic medal
- At least my name will go down in the history books
- Etc
- It sounds a little counterintuitive but
- Bronze medalist is happier than the silver medalist
- This isn’t just us saying it, there is a whole body of evidence to back this
- In a famous study conducted during the 1992 Barcelona Olympics
- Researchers got people with no awareness of the games to rate the facial expressions of Silver and Bronze medalists on a scale of agony to ecstasy
- The found overwhelming evidence of Bronze medalists to be happier than Silver medalists
- In interviews later bronze medalists were heard to use the words “at least” very often while the silver medalists used the words “if only”.
- This study has been replicated multiple times in different settings - the results are the same
- Bronze medalists are happier than silver medalists
If only and at least attitudes
- The “at least” attitude that bronze medalists have is a positive attitude
- It’s gratitude for what we have
- Makes us feel good, happy, warm and fuzzy
- While the “if only” feeling is difficult
- Its sad, anxious, angry, remorseful
- It’s not fun
- We hate ourselves in that moment
- But here’s the catch
- While the “at least” attitude is pleasant
- The “if only attitude” helps us grow
- Regret is the ultimate “if only” emotion.
- With regret we feel unpleasant and many complex difficult emotions.
- But when handled right - this can be very valuable.
- Regret in a nutshell
- Makes us feel worse today
- But helps us do better tomorrow.
- Multiple studies by folks in London Business School, Columbia University and others have shown this.
- They’ve found that regret when handled correctly can help us become better
How do regrets make us grow
- These studies found that regret helps us in two ways
- From an everyday life perspective - it enhances our performance and decision making skills.
- This happens because in order to avoid the negative feeling of regret again - we slow down, collect more information, consider wider options and then reach conclusions
- Additionally having faced failure - we are more persistent and this elevates performance
- Secondly - from a depth perspective - it strengthen our sense of meaning and connection
- As we look at all our regrets we get a sense of what’s missing in our lives and what’s really important. For example if we do a mid-life review of regrets. We often revise our life goals to make them more meaningful and have a stronger motivation towards them.
- From an everyday life perspective - it enhances our performance and decision making skills.
Not wallow in our regret
- As I share all this research, many of you will be thinking
- Wait a minute - That’s not what regret is
- My experience has been very different from what you’ve described.
- I broke the closest friendship I ever had because of some petty matter
- It’s been 20 years and I regret it even today
- or
- I turned down the perfect job offer and ever since my career has gone downhill
- I regret it every morning I go to work
- or
- I lied to get ahead in life putting the blame on an innocent person
- I regret what I did deeply and haven’t been able to forgive myself since.
- Regret is so negatively embedded in us that it’s impossible to imagine that we can grow from this.
- To grow from regret it needs to be handled correctly
- But it’s such a difficult emotion that most of us fail to do so.
- Some of us bury it and say we have no regrets
- But this comes back periodically to harm us and even changes the way we approach life
- Or we put a positive spin using the “at least” attitude
- But this only provided temporary relief and does not enable us to learn from our mistakes
- Or and this is the most common response - we get completely consumed by the emotions
- We are so overwhelmed that we cannot process the emotion and we simply wallow in them
- So how do we grow from regret vs getting consumed by the avalanche of emotions?
How does we move forward from the deep emotions regret brings about regret consume us
- The best way to visualise the avalanche of emotions is through a concept called rumination.
- Rumination is
- Constantly repeating the same event in our mind multiple times
- If only I had not said those nasty words
- If only we had cancelled the trip etc
- These short regretful stories keep coming in bursts
- Consuming us. Enveloping us with complex emotions.
- They bring up multiple emotions
- Self Blame is a big emotion
- Why did I do this?
- I am so stupid and foolish
- I’m a monster etc
- Helplessness is another emotion
- I can’t undo this?
- I will take this to my grave
- Why didn't’ I do this or that?
- Constantly repeating the same event in our mind multiple times
- It’s the same story again and again
- In a circular pattern.
- The story never moves forward
- That’s why we are stuck for years
- The key here is to move the story forward
- To get out of the loop
- There are many ways to do this
- A simple powerful tool in Journaling.
- Writing down our emotions.
- As we write we are forced to move the thought forward because we cannot sit there writing the same thing.
- By moving the thought forward and experiencing all the underlying emotions we are able to process regret.
- This is again backed by empirical evidence.
- Psychologist James Pennebaker calls this expressive writing and has proven empirically that writing about our most difficult emotions helps us heal.
- We had talked about rumination and expressive writing in more detail in episode 4 - managing everyday stress. For more on this - please do check out the episode.
- Some other tools on managing these stories can also be found in both episode 3 and 4
- There are many other tools to not get consumed in our mental thought patterns. For example
- Distancing ourselves from the event
- Treating ourselves with compassion and many more
- We will be discussing this as a separate topic in a future episode on managing mental chatter
- So the key is to process emotions and then grow from regret by making better decision and enhancing our performance.
- This serves us well in everyday life
- What’s even more powerful is the second huge benefit that regret provides
- It tells us about ourselves - what’s important to us, what are we longing
- And this provides a path towards meaning and fulfilment.
- To understand how this happens - let’s look at the different types of regret
4 types of regrets
- Daniel Pink classifies regrets into 4 categories
- Foundational regret
- Are those about the basic foundations of life
- Education, family, community, career, money, safety etc
- Its regrets around not completing one’s education or not establishing a stable career etc.
- This normally sound like this - If only I’d done the work
- The words too much and too little indicate foundational regret.
- Too much TV, too much partying, too much spending, too little saving, too little commitment etc
- Are those about the basic foundations of life
- Foundational regret
- Boldness regrets
- Are the opposite of foundation regrets
- Its regrets about not taking a chance and playing it safe
- For example - regret about not starting a business or not travelling enough, or not having fun
- These are typically inactions vs actions.
- Based on research, inaction regrets are two times action regrets
- They sound like “What if”
- What if I’d quit my job, what if I’d married the girl I loved etc
- Typically
- They represent a lack of growth, a lack of being brave, a lack of being evolved.
- And ultimately a lack of living fully
- Are the opposite of foundation regrets
- Connection regrets
- Arise from relationships
- This is the largest category of regrets
- These threaten our sense of belonging
- This is core to who we are
- Sound like this - “If only I’d reached out”
- If only I’d made up we’d still be friends, if only I’d sent that email we’d connected etc.
- Moral regrets
- Are about harming others, cheating, disloyalty, disrespect etc
- These make up only 10% of all regrets
- But they hurt the most and last the longest.
- They sound like - if only I had done the right thing
- If only I had stood up for my friend, if only I had come clean etc.
Regret as pathway to finding fulfilment and purpose
- Why is it important to look at these categories of regrets?
- This is because we are now moving from a micro picture of one regret to a macro picture of all our regrets
- By reflecting on all our regrets - big and small
- One might realise that most of our regrets sit in one category
- Whether its foundational regrets, connection regrets or any other
- This serves as a useful self awareness tool
- It tells us that there’s a part of us
- That’s very important to us
- And Is unfulfilled
- If we work towards filling this gap in life - we will find fulfilment and meaning.
- Now - If most of our regrets are foundational
- It tells us we need to build a fundamental structure of safety
- A secure platform of home, family, money, career, etc
- Whatever version that is for us.
- We’ve spent too much time exploring, trying new experiences, and floating around
- And too little in laying a solid foundation for our life.
- And now we feel insecure and fearful of the future.
- It tells us we need to build a fundamental structure of safety
- Boldness regrets
- Tell us that we are not living life fully
- We are stuck in a safe path or maybe a path someone’s chosen for us
- And we are resentful about it. Maybe even bored of our life.
- We want to break free, take some risks, try new things and live life fully.
- Connection regrets
- Tell us that we are scared of being all alone and lonely
- Our relationships are not deep
- Maybe we’ve treated our loved ones shabily, not made time for them, not been reciprocal
- We want to mend some old relationships and create deeper bonds
- Moral regrets
- Tells us that we’ve not stood up for what we believe in
- We often let ourselves and people around us down.
- This regret tells us about our need to live closer to our values and have a strong sense of self.
- This way depending on what bucket our regret lie in - we get a sense of where we can find fulfilment.
- However maybe on studying regrets - we realise they are not part of any category mentioned above
- Maybe most of our regrets have arisen out of anger
- Anger has made us sabotage our relationships, our career and our well being.
- This again is very good intel on ourselves which we can work on to grow and find peace.
- Regrets are from our past
- But if we can look at them as a gateway to the future
- They become empowering
- Like someone said
- The best time to make deepen an important relationship or start investing wisely or become an entrepreneur may have been 20 years ago
- The second best time is now.
Action Steps
- If any of this resonated with you, here are two action steps you could consider
- First is think of one regret that’s affected you
- Take some time out to write in down
- Maybe you could describe the incident and then write down all the feelings that arise
- Don’t hold back - use whatever language you like
- Give yourself 15-20 minutes to do this.
- After writing - check in with yourself and see how you feel.
- Did you learn anything about yourself? What can you do better next time? How do you feel about your regret now?
- The second exercise you could try is a Regret Review
- Set aside an hour to reflect on your regrets in life
- Note down whatever regrets come to mind - small and big.
- Once you’ve got most of your regrets down
- See what it tells you about yourself.
- From this is there an area of focus you could work on.
- How will you go about fulfilling this area of your life?
End
- I wish you all the best as you work through your regrets.
- Let’s end todays episode with a short passage by the great poet David Whyte
- Sincere regret may be a faculty for paying attention to the future.
- For sensing a new tide where we missed a previous one
- For experiencing timelessness with a grandchild where we neglected a boy of our own
- Fully experienced regrets turn our eyes attentive and alert for a future possibly lived better than the past.
- That’s all for today’s episode
- Wish all of you a wonderful day ahead.
- Bye bye